Talk:Hard Thorn/@comment-99.248.222.217-20140907083213

this gun is not amazing. it's okay. it's good for early games. its ammo is very cheap so it can be used as a money saving alternative weapon in mid game. it has no place in late game. low damage, low pierce, and small clip greatly hinder its performance against high level monsters. the 1887 shockfield can deal up to 10 times more damage than hard thorn.