Talk:CM 800 Jupiter/@comment-180.191.77.3-20150324130018/@comment-1763304-20150324140854

I assume you're a low level? The and Black versions of these two weapons are much better. I have a 10*** CM 800 Jupiter with deadly, capacity (pre aug), and enlarged (pre aug) - it kills everything quickly. (Except bosses and energy resilient zombies of course.)

Based on what you said, it's clear you've never used a 10*** or 12**** or Black CM 800 Jupiter or CM Gigavolt. I've seen 12**** Black CM Gigavolts with deadly, overclocked, capacity, and adaptive be absolutely unstoppable in Nightmare mode.