Talk:Heavy Class/@comment-25807111-20150108175833/@comment-109.93.13.104-20150109111244

Concusion maxed gives you 17% chance  to stun for 1.7 sec.Basically 1 in 6 shots.Except slow ass weapons which are mostly launcers you will be stunning left and right with almost any type of guns especially if overclkocked.Also shoul be noted that bosses have cooldown period in which thez cant be concussed.

Your overclocked proposition will cause stun in average worst case in quarter of  sec and that will last for 1.7 sec

Overclocked t 40 will cause it in about half of second for 1.7 sec

I think both this values are pretty adequate for both guns if used defensively although i would use proposition offensively (basically running with it into crowds) as i have done it with similiar guns.

In my experience if used defensively maxed concussion will be usefull for almost any gun but on offensive you will be better served with special fast firing guns like smgs or laser or fredy mentioned shotguns with fast firerate like hvm tempset or hvm 004 if you like clicking.

Also i think one defensive skill set serves well enough.As you like heavy equipment i would advice you on maxing heavy gear and body armor expert.They will sinergiye well giving you free no movemet penalties  access to hardplate with insane protection value from bae and allowing you to run around with your mentioned lmgs like they are pistols and .As for other skill sets after it if going for extreme tanking go for tougness or tough body and maybe health regen instead of tougness as it  actully becomes nice with so much protection you will be getting from hardplate.HTl and concussion from other hand will give you excelent offensive abilities as basically you will easily repositioniong dur to heavy gear and concusion will give you additionanal time to use htl.Htl may be combined also with critical shot for insane damage )works best as niper in multiplayer) or critical shot can go for concussion for pure offensive sprayer heavy tank build who dont like stazing in one place which is required from htl.