Talk:Mixmaster/@comment-65.92.112.122-20141222001130/@comment-24659969-20150117184523

^ That anon must be never played Moba or something like that.

Okay let me tell you the community approved method to count damage... should I just say the damage value of a gun. Basically the community (both in NK forum and Kongregate forum)  outside simpe damage x rps formula, they also has four other types of counting, which one you are going to use depends on your stuffs:

1. The simple one, used in most general situations.

(((((Gun base damage x passive multiplier buff including masteries) + deadly level ) x active multiplier buff such as crits, htl, kspree ) + gun dot ) x pellets x premium ammo ) x (gun rps x rps multiplier) = gun damage value

Some peeps who don't like kill steals usually breakdown the DoT into per seconds instead the total dot damage. Example a gun with 600 over 3 seconds DoT will have 200 in that formula. Others who don't mind it just put it 600.

2. Intermediate level, this includes reload time, capacity, and a lot of other stuffs. The base formula is same like 1st case. But after you got the damage value it extended into

( ( gun capacity x capacity multiplier ) / ( gun rps x rps multiplier total ) )= fire sustain time + modified reload time = total gun time

Then 1st case formula damage value / total gun time = True DPS

3. Including ammo price economical value. This formula included pierce into counting, which usually wins hardthorn and sublight guns as "best bangs for your bucks" stuff, the surprise stuff is HVM shotgun and tempest are strong here too. The free pistols usually excluded though. I won't write it down now. Too complicated typing it on mobile.

4. The hardcore player stuffs. This including rarity, drop level, resists, boss and enemy spawn chance at what level, range, accuracy (especially for any multi pellets gun), move speed into value, averaged crits damage, gun firing mode, gun pairings and more. Due to this formula, HIKS S300, hornet, or even shockfield can even be dissed out of the list by some weaker guns such as ronson 65a due to drop level and rarity value.