Talk:Nightmare Mode (SAS3)/@comment-82.251.40.159-20150210001125

actually the biggest problem is people can join it too early... going there with low dps is total waste of time,

also many players doesn't seem to notice their "normal" setup is totally ineffective in nightmare...(bazooka,sniper,some dot or aoe)

high base damage weapon doesn't one-hit kill anything, don't kill group ..and there you are...Weapon with zero stopping power, low dps,...long reload or poor capacity.... also the "speed " builds (or fast reload) nghtmare just show how it 's foolish... well, it's nothing "new" ... just put some challenge and the "myth" crumble...

I don't say speed build is ineffective, a good speed build, with appropriate weapons ans skills, it's ok, but too many people go speed for speed, without any concern for  combat effiency..all of  this was already obvious before nightmare.. 60%+ of players builds are useless,weapon choice often make non sense...(both weapon type and damage type)

and  + if they are low  level...there's nothing left! some teams can't even kill 1st bosses...Also lot of people won't even spend 1$ in skill reset (if they realize they do it wrong)...so...public rooms are often very sad.

best is to specialize in something... every weapon has a role...and skills that go with it